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Thu, Oct. 23rd, 2008, 10:19 pm
At the risk of angering my entire friends list

I got my ballot in the mail a couple days ago. If you hadn't heard, in Oregon we all get to vote by mail.

Basically the way I feel about Presidential elections is this: it's mind-control. Nothing more.

We aren't offered a real choice. The multinational corporations run things, and they give us an illusion of choice to keep us from fighting back in any substantive way. It was true when Clinton was President, and it's true today.

We're not now offered a real choice. Are you kidding? The madman and his stupid sidekick vs. ... the Perfect Politician? Come on! This is being spoon-fed to us. McCain was never this crazy when he was making appearances on Jon Stewart during the 2004 election. He wasn't this crazy during the 2008 primary. I just don't buy it. He's not this crazy and stupid. I don't know if he's throwing it or if he was gulled into making really bad choices but bottom line, it's got to be a contrivance.

So, by voting for Obama, I would be conditioning myself and allowing this charade to work its way into unconscious acceptance and ultimately compliance with decisions made by corporations. I would be invested in my choice of Obama, and I would therefore be somewhat compelled to defend his actions later.

Does that sound crazy to you? Well I think it sounds crazy to say that Obama is going to change anything that the big corporations don't want him to change.

So I wrote in Aleister Crowley for President of the United States of America. He is the ONLY candidate that will make a real difference, folks. Seriously. He only needs 1% of the vote to do it, too. If he gets that, his message of true liberty will be heard around the world:
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
Love is the law, love under will.
Every Man and every woman is a star.
So if you find yourself in a similar place, not knowing how you can support either major party candidate—for whatever reason—do what I did. Vote Aleister Crowley! Remember, he only needs 1%!

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 05:55 am (UTC)

us. McCain was never this crazy when he was making appearances on Jon Stewart during the 2004 election. He wasn't this crazy during the 2008 primary.

He sure seemed that crazy in the primaries to me, and he has since 2004. He didn't seem like that earlier, but my thought is very much that in 2000 he found out that you need to be batshit nuts to end up as a serious Republican presidential candidate - he spoke out against the fundys in 2000 and was immediately shut out. Since 2004, he's been voting with & for the crazy fundys (the change in his voting record since 2004 has been very extreme) in order to get the fundy cred needed to win the nomimation. He picked Palin for the same reason. The Republican party is utterly nuts and McCain knows that he has to at least play nice with all these nuts to have a chance.

Obama is a mealy-mouthed centrist, but the Democratic party isn't nuts at its base, and I'll take same and spineless over scarily nuts any day.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:00 am (UTC)

OK, maybe I have my timeline wrong.

I'll take same and spineless over scarily nuts any day

Well, that is my point. So would anyone.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:07 am (UTC)
gallows_brother: Woody Guthrie

Let's have Christ our President
Let us have him for our king
Cast your vote for the Carpenter
That they call the Nazarene

The only way
We could ever beat
These crooked politician men

Is to cast the moneychangers
Out of the temple
Put the Carpenter in

Oh it's Jesus Christ our President
God above our king
With a job and pension for young and old
We will make hallelujah ring

Every year we waste enough
To feed the ones who starve
We build our civilization up
And we shoot it down with wars

But with the Carpenter
On the seat
Way up in the capitol town

Be on the way
Prosperity bound

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:11 am (UTC)
thiebes: Re: Woody Guthrie

Haha nice :) I hadn't heard that one, though I do love Woody.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:10 am (UTC)

I was planning to try and throw a party on the 4th, celebrating the joy of nothing changing.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:17 am (UTC)

The Lodge usually has class on Tuesdays, but for the last several elections attendees have chosen to watch the results come in on tv. Maybe we should open up the bar this year.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:11 am (UTC)

Sorry. I think this is dumb. Really dumb.

Obama is not the savior. Nope. I get that. And whoever gets elected is inheriting a disgusting mess.

However. McCain and Palin winning will make things even worse. I am convinced of that. In 2000, I was sure that Bush vs Gore was just corporate power vs corporate power. In 2004, I couldn't stomach Kerry or Bush. But this time... at least Obama is smart and articulate and seems able to pick good people.

An Obama presidency *has* to be better than a McCain presidency at this point in time. Has to be. And voting for a third party only makes McCain's chances better.

McCain is nuts, and the one good thing I could ever say about him - that he was against torture - he has since caved on. Palin? Don't get me started.

I cannot support your choice. I choose to support the work of liberation (and Thelema, for all that) by practicing, teaching and making art, by spreading the word that waking up is possible... Not by writing in a dead man.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:14 am (UTC)

I cannot support your choice.

I wasn't asking you to support my choice or agree with me.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:12 am (UTC)

You might not remember how McCain blew his election chances in 2000. I remember it distinctly. He got cranky with a talk radio host by the name of Michael Reagan (son of Ronald), and Reagan denounced him from there along with Rush Limbaugh.

This isn't just some crap that someone scripted out there. The media might be writing the narratives to sell cookies, but McCain isn't following some script. McCain is genuinely giving this his best shot, and he's genuinely blowing it, because he's genuinely ill-tempered.

The divine watchmaker is still a myth after all.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:15 am (UTC)

Fair enough, but I stand by my candidate ;)

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:21 am (UTC)

And here, I mailed in my ballot already.

Mickey Mouse has to get at least 1% every election...

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:32 am (UTC)

the fact that he is deceased will only make him shine brighter than the current administration, as there is far less he could do to screw everything up.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:34 am (UTC)

Well, he won't win :) LOL But yeah.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:47 am (UTC)

I agree with your assessment of the general political landscape at the national level, but I'm voting for Obama because I believe that if he wins it will not only help brown people around the world hate us less, but it will also encourage brown people in our own country to believe in themselves more.

I do think he's a shill for the unelected, largely hidden power elite that actually *are* "the deciders", but I still think he can be a symbol for hope for those that the power elite have little concern for, even while explicitly serving their agenda.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:50 am (UTC)

That makes sense. I think that the symbol of hope is being used to control people though, and that is what I'm not down with.
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Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 09:54 am (UTC)

... but ...

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 08:06 am (UTC)

I'm sold! AND I'm gonna make me one of those bumper stickers that says:

Don't blame me: I voted for Aleister Crowley

Essentially it would be a thumb in the eye of our election system that is so corrupt that it can make a candidate...awfully tempting to vote for. And if you don't, well they have plenty of lawyers to "fix" the problem.

If I knew how to link it I would, but I wrote on a similar topic in LJ

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 11:45 am (UTC)
kitten_goddess: Two questions

1. Why would John McCain throw the election to Obama?

2. Why does Aleister Crowley only need 1% of the vote?

I'm not angry, but I am curious. As for your Friends list, "Man has the right to speak as he will."

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)
thiebes: Re: Two questions

1. It's a good way to get the majority to feel like they are making a change.

2. Because if he has 1% of the vote, then the world media will run stories on it.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 01:25 pm (UTC)

I'm cool with you using your vote any way you choose - that's what it's for, right? I don't think it's the most sensible way to use it, but it doesn't piss me off.

I sympathize because for a long period of my adult life I felt the same way. And the times I have voted...man, believe me, I'm fully aware of how little of a difference my vote is likely to make. I have yet to vote for a candidate for national office who's actually won! And Crowley was right when he said "we govern by a mixture of lying and bullying." It's even more true now, if that's possible.

However, at the same time, in order to really support that position, I think you have to believe that there's literally no difference between one guy winning and the other guy winning. And I don't believe that's ever the case. Even if you don't believe there would be any difference on the most central, important issues, there are differences - and the benighted sheep who make up the great mass of humanity pay attention to those differences, are moved by those differences, even if they are shadows and glamour. Especially if they are shadows and glamour - because who has the time, energy, and discipline to see things as they are?

So voting isn't all it could be in principle - it's not even close. It probably doesn't address the things that it is in people's most vital interests to address. But even if it's a puppet show...it's my puppet show too, goddamn it, and I'd rather watch Sesame Street than Kingdom Adventure.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 07:08 pm (UTC)

in order to really support that position, I think you have to believe that there's literally no difference between one guy winning and the other guy winning

Or that the votes will not actually affect the outcome of the election.

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 02:41 pm (UTC)

In a case of such difficulty and danger, I can think of but one name to put on my ballot...

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 03:42 pm (UTC)

VOTE FOR VERMIN because all politicians are Vermin but he is KING of the VERMIN!

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 04:17 pm (UTC)
ihateswine: you have to be american to be president...

...but lulz anyway

at least you didn't vote for mccain.

i would write in Warren Beatty but i doubt he'd take the job

Fri, Oct. 24th, 2008 04:19 pm (UTC)
ihateswine: Re: you have to be american to be president...

BTW: if Obama loses Oregon by one vote, I shall hold you personally responsible, good Sir.